Monday 4 July 2016

Flipboard's Mike McCue on the last startup he'll ever do

Flipboard chief executive Mike McCue at the company's new office in Palo Alto, Calif. on May 12, 2016.




Inside a renovated building in Palo Alto, Calif. is a wall adorned with photographs from some of the major figures and breakthroughs of history. From David Bowie to the death-defying leap by Felix Baumgartner to the Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality, this installation is designed to highlight positive moments that have transpired through an exchange of knowledge and ideas.


To media publishing platform Flipboard, the occupant of this office space, spreading ideas and stories is part of the company mission. After more than five years, Flipboard believes it has found its stride. In fact, cofounder and CEO Mike McCue believes it will be the last startup he'll ever do, something he's said before. This time around, the 49-year-old entrepreneur wants to continue to execute his vision and keep Flipboard going for many years to come.


A wall in Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office is adorned with photos from some of the world's most historic moments.


Above: A wall in Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office is adorned with photos from some of the world's most historic moments.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


Standing tall and building towards profitability


At first glance, the company might not seem like anything spectacular, particularly in a fluctuating marketplace. But as publishers and news outlets pontificate about the future of media, Flipboard appears to have settled on a path to democratize media and re-engineer how people get their news. It has remained steadfast in its approach, even with the arrival (and departure) of other companies, including Facebook, with its Paper app, Circa, Apple News, Inside, AOL's Editions app, Yahoo News Digest, and Zite, which Flipboard ultimately acquired and shut down.


Flipboard aspires to be the new magazine rack to replace the one we'd come across while navigating our way down the street or in a busy airport terminal. It now counts more than 90 million monthly active users and is “significantly” growing. But it has faced criticism from those who claim that the company is “doomed” and even predictions that it will likely sell soon due to its fading fanfare. This year, there had been speculation that a number of companies were looking to acquire Flipboard, such as Twitter, which was reported to be making a $1 billion bid, or interest from Google and Yahoo. McCue shrugged the rumors off, saying that it's “all in the same vein as the dead unicorn meme.”


Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office features displays that engineers use to monitor activity on the social content curation app.


Above: Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office features displays that engineers use to monitor activity on the social content curation app.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


“Part of the thing is that if you read into [the Bloomberg article], if you take the headline away, [Flipboard] sounds like a pretty damn good company,” he told VentureBeat in an interview.


He admits that he's lost some top lieutenants recently, including McCue's cofounder Evan Doll, chief technology officer Eric Feng, head of product Eugene Wei, chief financial officer Jeff McCombs, and, most recently, the head of advertising and monetization product Dave Huynh. But he says that kind of turnover is normal for a company like Flipboard after five years. “You have to change,” McCue explained.


As for a lack of fanfare, he pointed out that Flipboard doubled its monthly users from 40 million to 80 million in less than a year. Now that it has the user numbers, McCue is focusing on the next phase of development, which involves making the company profitable so “that it can stand on its two feet.”


And while the number of players in the space appears to be contracting, McCue has a plan to avoid the fate of formal rivals, like Circa. He describes the problem there as two-fold: “There was no scale of users and they weren't able to have enough runway to get the scale to happen. [Circa] didn't have a business model that could sustain them.” He did praise the news app maker, saying it was “well innovated by really good people and captured some trends that will be important and live on.”


Flipboard CEO Mike McCue gestures while speaking at a ReadWriteMix event on August 13, 2014.


Above: Flipboard CEO Mike McCue gestures while speaking at a ReadWriteMix event on August 13, 2014.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung


McCue isn't new to the startup space. Prior to Flipboard, he cofounded TellMe Networks, which was acquired by Microsoft in 2007, and before that, he started pen computing company Paper Software.


“One of the things I've learned is that you have to build a real business,” he said. “I started a company with not only a good vision for a product, but an ecosystem that encompassed a business fueled by the product. When you invest in the user experience of the product, you make the business model better, as opposed to worse.”


It's about creating that “a-ha!” moment


At VentureBeat's MobileBeat conference last year, McCue shared that Flipboard is about creating “a-ha!” moments within its apps. It's this thinking that has pushed the company forward and guided its thinking as it continues to monetize itself. “We've always had a clear idea of what we can do is to create an ecosystem for great stories to thrive and support a business model that's beneficial to authors and Flipboard,” he told us recently.


“We're trying to give [advertisers] an opportunity to build brands in a social media world. This is an important thing. The problem is that if you build a product that's inherently direct response, it's not a good platform for building brands.”


Advertisers have a plethora of opportunities to market their products, including running sponsored tweets on Twitter and buying ads on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, or even on Google. There's also native advertising through companies like Sharethrough. But those don't really offer the capabilities necessary to create desire in viewers, the way a full-page ad in a magazine can, and this is something that McCue said Flipboard can offer.


Flipboard CEO Mike McCue with VentureBeat's Harrison Weber at MobileBeat 2015


Above: Flipboard CEO Mike McCue with VentureBeat's Harrison Weber at MobileBeat 2015


Image Credit: Michael O'Donnell / VentureBeat


“If you look at the world of advertising in totality, there's roughly about $600 billion in revenue across digital, offline, print, and television globally,” he explained. “70 percent is still offline, meaning we're in early innings. The market hasn't shifted the percentage. It's just the beginning.”


“What you see are the vast majority of dollars moved online have been for direct response ads,” McCue continued. “What's offline is brand advertisements. Any company needs to do two things: build brand awareness and desire, and harvest that desire and turn it into sales. These are two very different kinds of advertising.”


Take Banana Republic as an example: If the clothing retailer wants to market its next line of khakis, it'll buy placement on a billboard in San Francisco, an ad in Vogue, TV commercials, and more. The goal, as McCue shared, is to be aspirational, emotional, immersive, and tell a story. What Flipboard seeks to offer is the same experience you might get from print advertising but have it hosted on a digital-based publication with advanced targeting by interests.


But rather than having it be a place inundated with ads like just another website filled with information, Flipboard is going to be purposefully picky about what is displayed within its app. McCue is creating a product that supports premium content and advertisements and at this time select brands will get to tap into Flipboard's audience.


Flipboard on an iPad


Above: Flipboard on an iPad


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


“Brands want to go where there's high quality content. They don't want to be next to a diet ad or a picture of youin a bar. When you have a long-tail of advertisers that number in the millions, you can't create that type of experience,” McCue shared. That's why his company is focused on the top tier brands instead of making the platform available to everyone.


“It's about reaching a person when in an aspirational state,” he remarked. “One of the challenges in products is with mobile, when are people using them? When are they checking out products? Flipboard is diving into your interests and passions. Do you want to be a better parent? Where do you want to travel on summer vacation? People do a deep dive and they do it when in an aspirational state or personal prime time. They're thinking about their future, shopping, open to inspiration and ideas.”


So rather than have a product that is similar to others on the market, Flipboard has spent its time and effort looking at ways to not only create a unique experience for users, but also to have a way to impact advertisers and show this isn't the normal way you market digitally anymore.


The go-to place for what you're passionate about


While social products have become places to share knowledge, they have also come under fire because of perceived censorship. Facebook most recently was accused of employing human editors that were filtering out posts from conservative media outlets, thereby offering a bias view to its users within its Trending Topics tool. The company denied these claims, but made some changes to boost its credibility among its conservative users.


Flipboard CEO Mike McCue chats with a coworker in the company's new Palo Alto, Calif office.


Above: Flipboard CEO Mike McCue chats with a coworker in the company's new Palo Alto, Calif office.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


So as a content curation service, how does Flipboard view this? “We want it to be the go-to place for what you're passionate about and see multiple perspectives from people that are just as passionate, if not more,” McCue remarked. “We want people to get a full round up of perspectives and then, if they want to see more, click-through. We want advertisers to map to the interest of the user's choice.”


“There is no algorithm for insightful or relevant, no algorithm to duplicate what the front page editor of The New York Times does every morning,” he continued. “You do need people. You have to treat that as a solemn responsibility, just like publishers have done for decades. How you think about algorithms and popularity, and weigh that on importance and insight is a challenging problem space.”


McCue said Flipboard is a company that mixes both algorithm with human editors and the community in order to show users articles and content at the right time without it being link bait or all extreme. “The problem that the web has had is that it has simultaneously devalued advertising and made it harder for journalists to have their work subsidized,” he pontificated. “Everything is trending to the law of numbers model. The stuff that's the most popular and gets the most numbers is the stuff that oftentimes are not what users are going to read.”


Flipboard believes it's among the unique products out on the marketplace especially with the power of technology it integrated from its Zite acquisition. Users can more acutely fine-tune the content they want to see, specifying topics and interests they want to learn more about, muting sources, and more. This also helped advertisers better target their ads as the company improved its monetization offering with Zite's interest graph.


The future


Inside Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office is a space dedicated to the international users of its social content curation app.


Above: Inside Flipboard's Palo Alto, Calif. office is a space dedicated to the international users of its social content curation app.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


Word has it that Flipboard is working on its next major release, but the company is hush on the details. But if we had to speculate, there might be a push towards more monetization, not only for advertisers but for users, as well as including more sources of curation to help tell the whole story about a particular story, topic, or issue.


While there's cause for celebration when a company gets more than a billion users, McCue doesn't subscribe to that, saying Flipboard is “focused on quality over quantity, class over mass, the world's high-quality brands versus 'come one, come all'.” His goal is to have a “solid ecosystem that stands on its own two feet from a cash flow point of view” and has a long-term vision to create something that not only provides enjoyment to its users but advertisers will like as well.


McCue stated that although Flipboard raised $50 million in new funding in 2015, efforts are being made to make itself sustainable without any further need for outside investment. He claimed that its ads are impactful enough that they sell as a higher Cost Per Impression (CPM) above traditional mobile rates.


Flipboard's mission is plastered on a wall in the company's Palo Alto, Calif. office.


Above: Flipboard's mission is plastered on a wall in the company's Palo Alto, Calif. office.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung/VentureBeat


He admits that the company has been thinking about a self-service ad model, but there aren't any immediate plans to implement it. Among the issues that need to be sorted out includes a channel model that allows companies to have an ad, content, or page on Flipboard providing the right amount of prominence as others. McCue seeks to emulate how magazines work - after all, it's a big part of how the product was conceived. However, he wants to avoid random ads being displayed solely through programmatic efforts:


“When you have machines do the bidding, you get Kim Kardashian and diet ads. There's nothing wrong with that, but that's not what Flipboard is about. It's where you come to read about where the future of clean energy is going,” McCue said.


Flipboard has also thought about letting users generate some income off its platform, but any plans are very much in its early stages. In an example McCue shared, if you found an awesome camera lens article that you flipped, and someone purchased it on Amazon, you might receive an affiliate fee. But he cautioned that right now, a lot of Flipboard's users that curate content aren't doing it in the hopes of making money. “They're using it for fun or passion, or they're buiding a following, advancing their business, career, or point of view on something that translates back into doing marketing.”


Flipboard CEO Mike McCue ponders the future of media on stage while at a ReadWriteMix event in August 2014.


Above: Flipboard CEO Mike McCue ponders the future of media on stage while at a ReadWriteMix event in August 2014.


Image Credit: Ken Yeung


More ways to curate could be a part of Flipboard's product roadmap as well. McCue hinted that as the battle over video plays out on Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, it might make sense for live videos to even be integrated into Flipboard. “It's growing in importance, and a place for brands to participate,” he opined. “All the work that we've been doing to articles applies to videos.”


Flipboard does support videos now, but as people share content around their interests in real-time, being able to bring that into a magazine could continue to offer unique perspectives and points of view users may want. “We think we can do a better job to surface and discover it while also having a more immersive experience,” McCue claimed.


So while critics may argue that Flipboard is doomed, the company is continuing to march forward with McCue's vision, emboldened in its task to create a long-term product that lets people share what they're interested in, like a topical Digg or StumpleUpon, but with mobile in mind, and an a-ha! moment for both users and advertisers. McCue believes that Flipboard is in a unique position:


“There are very few platforms at scale that provide premium content and advertising experience on mobile. We've been laser-focused on the same thing for the last 5.5 years.”


































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